@toffeelola Where have you seen what happens to animals? I can assure that the animals we use are very well looked after and treated very humanely. i would have nothing to do with the work if was any other way.
i HATE animal testing there is no reason why a animal should be forced to do it. Why can’t you test it on people that volunteer? i personally do not like to use things that have been tested on animals and dislike it when people use animals for their own benefit.
@taylorswift: Of course you are entitled to feel that way. But as Darren said a lot of things cannot be measured in dead tissue. Dead tissue does not react at all like living tissue and many things are not possible in humans.
@toffeelola: As someone who does human research I assure you that not everything is possible in humans. Also it is considered unethical to ‘pay’ people to be a subject. We compensate them for any expenses they incur but you start paying people to be subjects it is not strictly voluntary as they can be coerced by the offer of money.
You also need to release that many other countries do not have the ethical and legislative protection of animals that Australia has. Just because you have seen things that happen in other countries does not mean that Australian scientists do these things.
I love that you guys are so passionate about this issue – thanks for being part of the debate!
Just one question – do you eat meat? The living conditions and rules about raising animals for food are a lot less strict than raising animals for medical research. Especially for chickens and pigs. I saw a documentary on the way some chickens are treated in battery farms for eggs and kept in horrible cages. Awful! I only ever buy free range ones now!
Thats so true! I wrote an essay on the cruelty to animals that we eat. Chickens are kept in tiny cages with others and have their wings cut. They are fed hormones so they get fat quicker, and in turn we eat them! They are force fed too. Chickens are put into boiling water and have their beaks cut off while they are still alive and concious. It’s so horrible.
Hi duffy – thanks for your comment, its good to have your input into the discussion.
What kind of animal testing? What kind of animals? There are many different levels to this..
What about a fly? Fruit flies are used in genetics experiments to find new genes, and most of the time the genes in the flies directly relate to genes in humans. Is it ok to kill a fly to help find a cure?
What about a worm? Scientists also use small worms to study genetics, and many of the genes that go wrong during cancer were first discovered in worms. Can we use worms to learn more about cancer?
How about rats and mice? When they get into people’s house and in their cupboards, many people will use traps and rat poison to kill mice and rats, without all the strict guidelines that scientists use in the lab. What if doing an experiment on a mouse could prove a new drug can stop diabetes?
Or sheep and pigs? We keep sheep and pigs for food, can we also use parts of them for experiments? A pig heart is very much like a human heart, and we can learn so much about heart attacks and strokes from studying pigs.
So where do we draw the line? What is ok? What is worth it, to help save a human life?
These are all important questions, and there really isn’t a right or wrong answer, and I think it’s really good to have discussions like this and keep debating this issue. Thanks for your thoughts!
Well, I almost have mixed emotions about the topic of animals testing. I think it unwise to ‘test’ potentially hazardous drugs on animals. Where do you draw the line? To save a human’s life? Well, in some cases, that animal’s life could be worth more than that humans life. Not to sound harsh or cruel, but I feel it can kind of be like sacrificing an animal for you. It all depends, however,